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  • Ed's Champions League Rankings

    The eagerly anticipated Champions League Rankings are here. Using detailed analytics and indicies, the teams are ranked against the best possible eleven using the most effective tactic, with 1000 representing the maximum possible score. The numbers are determined using each teams best eleven players in their most effective formation. Consequently, no account is taken of squad age or squad depth, both of which will ultimately have an unknown effect. Below are the 16 teams ranked on score. Later we will consider each group individually.
    Rank Team Score
    #1 PSG 979
    #2 RMA 951
    #3 MNC 942
    #4 MNU 922
    #5 JUV 909
    #6 LEE 908
    #7 ROM 904
    #8 INT 870
    #9 ARS 843
    #10 CHE 838
    #11 BCA 836
    #12 WHU 833
    #13 NEW 819
    #14 BUR 811
    #15 ACM 800
    #16 LIS 660

    Group A
    Manchester United (Seed), Inter Milan, Arsenal, Barcelona
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #4 MNU 922
    #8 INT 870 52 52
    #9 ARS 843 27 79
    #11 BCA 836 7 86
    This is the closest of the four groups with only 86 ranking points separating the four teams. Manchester United have a reasonable margin, and experience of qualifying from the groups, winning the trophy 3 seasons ago. However, only 34 points separate the remaining three teams, suggesting any one of them could grab the 2nd qualification spot.

    Ed’s prediction
    1st: Manchester United 2nd Inter Milan

    The seeded team have a significant margin over the other three teams, and is it difficult to see them not winning the group. Under their current manager, Inter Milan have bolstered their defensive lines, and their style of play will suit the cagey type of games we tend to see in the Champions League.


    Group B
    Paris Saint Germain (seed), Chelsea, Newcastle, Lisbon
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #1 PSG 979
    #10 CHE 838 141 141
    #13 NEW 819 19 160
    #16 LIS 660 159 319
    Sporting Lisbon are the wildcard entrants after winning the DPT, but they are so far off the pace, it is a massive ask for them to finish anywhere other than bottom of the group. Conversely, the French giants have a massive margin over the next best. With their added depth it will surely take an epic fail for them not to qualify. The only uncertainty would appear to be which of the other two teams will secure the other qualification spot

    Ed’s prediction
    1st: Paris Saint Germain 2nd Chelsea

    It is difficult to see the reigning champions failing to win the group, never mind failing to qualify. Despite the small gap between Chelsea and Newcastle, the London manager is one of the most experienced when it comes to Champions League success, and he should have enough in the tank to make it to the knockout stages.

    Group C
    Manchester City (seed), Roma, West Ham United, AC Milan
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #3 MNC 942
    #7 ROM 904 38 38
    #12 WHU 833 71 109
    #15 ACM 800 33 142
    In Group C we have two strong teams and two weaker teams, suggesting that the 2 qualifiers should be easy to predict. However the gap between the top two teams is the closest of the four teams, making it a tough call

    Ed’s prediction
    1st: Manchester City 2nd Roma

    With the slight points advantage, and the wealth of Champions league success, surely the seeded team will win the group, whilst the Champions League new guy will have to settle for qualifying as runner up.


    Group D
    Real Madrid (seeded), Juventus, Leeds United, Burnley
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #2 RMA 951
    #5 JUV 909 42 42
    #6 LEE 908 1 43
    #14 BUR 811 97 140
    Last years runners up are the strongest team in the group, and headed only by PSG in the 16 team list. At the other end of the table are Burnley, who will likely struggle to avoid finishing bottom of the group. In between we find Juventus and Leeds United, two teams separated by the closest of margins, a solitary point. Both managers have previously achieved Champions League success, amazingly with the same team, Real Madrid, whom they find themselves pitted against in this campaign. This one could go right down to the wire.

    Ed’s prediction
    1st: Real Madrid 2nd Juventus

    Whilst Real Madrid find themselves with a new manager, they ought to be strong enough to go through the quarter finals as group winners. With nothing between Juventus and Leeds United, team depth could prove to be the difference that sees the Italian club go through as runner up.



    Last edited by Ed@PSG; 15-06-2024, 12:17 AM.

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    Ed's DPT Rankings

    Following on from the Champions League Rankings we now look at the competition for the teams that couldn’t quite make the elite competititon, The Dave Phillips Trophy (DPT). To recap, using detailed analytics and indicies, the teams are ranked against the best possible eleven using the most effective tactic, with 1000 representing the maximum possible score. The numbers are determined using each teams best eleven players in their most effective formation. Consequently, no account is taken of squad age or squad depth, both of which will ultimately have an unknown effect. Below are the 16 teams ranked on score. Later we will consider each group individually. Two teams are head and shoulders above the other fourteen, and I struggle to see the ultimate winner outside those two. The burning question is whether they can avoid eachother before the final.
    Rank Team Score
    #1 ATM 902
    #2 AST 880
    #3 SOU 843
    #4 LIV 838
    #5 LAZ 825
    #6 DOR 824
    #7 BYM 815
    #8 CEL 798
    #9 BAR 798
    #10 BLA 796
    #11 RAN 790
    #12 NAP 785
    #13 CRY 778
    #14 SHW 775
    #15 TOT 774
    #16 MON 743
    Group A
    Borussia Dortmund, Celtic, Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #6 DOR 824
    #8 CEL 798 26 26
    #10 BLA 796 2 28
    #14 SHW 775 21 49
    This is the closest of the 4 groups, with only 49 ranking points separating the 4 teams. With no seeding in this competition, Dortmund are the weakest of the “top” teams. We have the closest gap between 1st and 3rd, and also between 1st and 4th, suggesting this group is wide open. Qualification will probably come down the tactics and fortune with injuries and suspension.

    Ed’s Prediction
    1st Celtic 2nd Borussia Dortmund

    I think the managerial experience of Mati will beat the rankings. He has won elite trophies in the past, and as long as he avoids the “D at 1 down” I can see him winning the group. It is a very close call for 2nd, and I give it to the germans, simply on the rankings.

    Group B
    Aston Villa, Lazio, Napoli, Crystal Palace
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #2 AST 880
    #5 LAZ 825 55 55
    #12 NAP 785 40 95
    #13 CRY 778 7 102
    Aston Villa are one of two teams that are probsbly too strong for this competition. In fact, were they in the Champions League, they would have a good chance of getting out of the groups. The top 3 teams will all see manager changes before the start of the competition. The gap between 1st and 2nd is wider than the spread of the whole of group A, and the gap to third is large.

    Ed’s prediction
    1st Aston Villa 2nd Lazio

    It is extremely difficult to see anyone other than Villa winning the group. The manager is astute enough to see off the competition here. With such a large gap vetween 2nd and 3rd, and the fact that Napoli might even be under a caretaker, I expect Lazio to easily qualify in second place

    Group C
    Atletico Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barnsley, Tottenham Hotspur
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #1 ATM 902
    #7 BYM 815 87 87
    #9 BAR 798 17 104
    #15 TOT 774 24 128
    Atletico Madrid are far far too good for this competition, and would likely get through the group stages of the Champions League.We also have the largest margin to 2nd pace. We then have the youthful Bayern Munich, who are slightly higher than Barnsley, whom are strongest ranked third team, with Spurs propping up the group.

    Ed’s prediction
    1st Atletico Madrid 2nd Barnsley

    Not only are they my tip to win the group, I fully expect the Spaniards to win the competition. We have the widest margin to second place, and I can see the top team qualifying inside 4 games. Against the rankings, I am going for Barnsley as group runner up. In recent seasons, their manager has managed to “overperform” whilst the german club seem to be struggling to compete after going younger. It is unclear to me whether the germans are chasing success or player development, and I am also unsure whether the players know.

    Group D
    Southampton, Liverpool, Rangers, Monaco
    Rank Team Score Difference Cumulative
    #3 SOU 843
    #4 LIV 838 5 5
    #11 RAN 790 48 53
    #16 MON 743 47 100
    This is the closest group with regards to the top 2, with the 3rd and 4th ranked teams going to head to head. We also have Monaco, the worst ranked team in the competition, with Rangers making up the 4. Liverpool and Monaco both have new managers, although the likelihood is that the current manager of the French team will be sacked before the club play the first game.

    Ed’s prediction
    1st Liverpool 2nd Southampton

    Despite being ranked below their English counterparts, the Liverpool manager is one of the most successful managers in the game at cup football, and I am in no doubt they will progress to the knockout stages as group winners. Southampton ought to have enough quality to see them over the line in second, although I think it will be closer than the ranking suggest.


    Total word count 1641 plus research

    Last edited by Ed@PSG; 07-07-2024, 08:45 AM.

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    • #3
      Optimistic prediction for Barnsley!

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      • #4
        Best of the rest

        This leaves 8 teams in the top 2 tiers – 4 in the prem and 4 in EFL1. To recap, using detailed analytics and indicies, the teams are ranked against the best possible eleven using the most effective tactic, with 1000 representing the maximum possible score. The numbers are determined using each teams best eleven players in their most effective formation. Consequently, no account is taken of squad age or squad depth, both of which will ultimately have an unknown effect. Below are the remaining eight teams
        Rank Team Score
        #1 FIO 841
        #2 SEV 824
        #3 BYL 770
        #4 LEI 710
        #5 WAT 705
        #6 CAR 685
        #7 EVE 679
        #8 FEY 640
        Fiorentina and Sevilla are good enough to match some of the lesser CL teams, and would be expected to get through the group stages of the DPT. Of the remaining teams, just Bayer Leverkusen have comparable numbers to the DPT teams, meaning EFL1 teams occupy the top 3 spots.


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        • #5
          Rank Team Score
          #1 PSG 979
          #2 RMA 951
          #3 JUV 909
          #4 ROM 904
          #5 ATM 902
          #6 INT 870
          #7 FIO 841
          #8 BCA 836
          #9 LAZ 825
          #10 DOR 824
          #11 SEV 824
          #12 BYM 815
          #13 ACM 800
          #14 CEL 798
          #15 RAN 790
          #16 NAP 785
          #17 BYL 770
          #18 MON 743
          #19 LIS 660
          #20 FEY 640
          Rank Team Score
          #1 MNC 942
          #2 MNU 922
          #3 LEE 908
          #4 AST 880
          #5 SOU 843
          #6 ARS 843
          #7 LIV 838
          #8 CHE 838
          #9 WHU 833
          #10 NEW 819
          #11 BUR 811
          #12 BAR 798
          #13 BLA 796
          #14 CRY 778
          #15 SHW 775
          #16 TOT 774
          #17 LEI 710
          #18 WAT 705
          #19 CAR 685
          #20 EVE 679


          July word count 1933 plus research

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          • #6
            Suck it Ed

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