Future Auctions

[Ian]

I really liked the format for the new auction but there was obviously issues with the outcome. Just throwing out an idea to possibly improve things, feel free to poo poo the idea lol.

Keep the format basically the same with a blind auction for those who cannot attend the live but then with a different twist when it comes to the live auction. What I would suggest is that each manager can make one single blind bid within the live auction. Jon would release the players in the same way and then the managers decide whether they want to bid or not after each player can be viewed and have just 1 minute to do so. To bid you type your club and the amount of cash you want to bid, this would be sent to Jon as a direct message on Discord and then no one else would know who has bid on each player or how much. When all players have gone through the auction Jon then publishes the results. Any unsold players could possibly go into a second round. I would also make all bids a minimum 50% of your bank balance for everyone. Jon could make a bid before the auction starts, I’m sure we could find some way of verifying the bid.

[AB@Juventus]

Something I mentioned to him yesterday was;

Anyone blind bidding gets to see the players, or maybe 2 players 12 hour before. Yes they could share this information but I think that wouldn't benefit them so why would they.

Also I think just the 1 bid too would make round 2 more possible.

Finally I think we need much higher starting prices for the top players, and perhaps a BHN value added live at the auction.

For example KDB- 150 min bid, 2 blind bids with the highest being 170, BHN is 250.....go.
Then anyone can bid BHN and sign him or JB can ask for the next bid.
If that makes sense?

[Eduardo]

Where can we see the auction players and where they went?

[Steve@Chelsea]

Quite like the ideas from Ian and AB.

I don't like AB's part about the blind bidders getting a player or 2's stats before the auction though. The stats will find there way around. All should be blind or none at all.

[AB@Juventus]

Where can we see the auction players and where they went?

I think, don't ask me prices lol

M_Neuer 36 ger 21 1 1 1 28 476 1 1 1 Wolves G_Donnarumma 23 ita 20 1 1 1 24 804 1 1 1
Marseille

Eder_Militao 25 bra 1 19 15 3 29 1 573 366 229
Villa
M_Hummels 34 ger 1 19 14 4 27 1 825 772 101
Inter Milan

T_A_Arnold 23 eng 1 18 16 13 22 1 234 356 493
Real Madrid
F_Tomori 25 eng 1 18 15 2 25 1 860 167 245
Dortmund
T_Lamptey 22 gha 1 17 16 12 22 1 720 721 446
Rangers
S_Dest 20 esp 1 17 14 11 26 1 555 727 529
Arsenal

D_Rice 23 eng 1 16 19 3 27 1 566 215 399
PSG
T_Kroos 33 ger 1 14 19 14 22 1 763 894 349
Cardiff
F_Valverde 24 uru 1 14 18 11 29 1 787 774 427
Man Utd
E_Camavinga 20 fra 1 15 17 3 24 1 573 364 872
Juventus
Jorginho 29 ita 1 14 17 12 30 1 302 601 506
Sevilla

L_Messi 35 arg 1 3 19 18 21 1 723 344 7
AC Milan
K_De_Bruyne 31 bel 1 12 19 17 25 1 66 606 641
Roma
L_Sane 27 ger 1 3 18 17 23 1 564 505 204
Chelsea

Antony 22 bra 1 4 17 16 28 1 848 772 829
Celtic
Pedri 20 esp 1 10 17 15 25 1 204 602 93
Porto

R_Lewandowski 34 pol 1 4 12 20 26 1 632 203 307
Lisbon
D_Vlahovic 22 ser 1 5 14 19 27 1 340 772 893
Man City
Ansu_Fati 20 esp 1 3 16 18 22 1 243 9 54
Atletico Madrid
S_Gnabry 27 ger 1 7 15 18 28 1 843 418 799
Valencia

[AB@Juventus]

Quite like the ideas from Ian and AB.

I don't like AB's part about the blind bidders getting a player or 2's stats before the auction though. The stats will find there way around. All should be blind or none at all.

I just think if you're bidding blind, you have no idea what you're bidding on.
Like how many of yesterdays players did anyone predict well enough?

[AB@Juventus]

Another idea I've seen is if you blind bid say 400mil, that's not what you pay.

That's your maximum and JB would keep bidding for you until you win the player or someone bids more than the 400 mil

[Steve@Chelsea]

Another idea I've seen is if you blind bid say 400mil, that's not what you pay.

That's your maximum and JB would keep bidding for you until you win the player or someone bids more than the 400 mil

Yep. Like an ebay max bid

[Steve@Chelsea]

I just think if you're bidding blind, you have no idea what you're bidding on.
Like how many of yesterdays players did anyone predict well enough?

Yeah. I just feel like it could cause mistrust. Few people have loose lips lol .

[Steve@ManUtd]

The system used simply isn't fair although it did seem a nice new element to the game for the fortunate ones who took part, but being someone who had to bid blind (or not at all), showed the skewed nature of the auction for the blind bidders. Having nothing but names to go on, OK you can google ages as the only tool you had, so its a complete gamble, adding to the fact that you have to bid at least half a balance on one solitary bid is a joke yet the bid balances can scare off teams knowing they will be out bid adds to the skewed element and of course favouring the same big teams which I thought this auction/ style was meant to avoid.

Yes I've squandered my balance which is m own choice stick or twist, but for a "super auction", what else can you do with one bid, hope your solitary £30m gets you somewhere, or in my case best part of £180+ or (whatever half my balance is/ was) ? Blind bids should either be your max and it keeps going giving some chance of a fair fight, or you should be allowed say 3 bids on one player to break down your offers to try and save some cash which obviously the bid bids did on the day.

Maybe as well, you either up the minimums on players in the format and screw the bargains, or let people bid low and have a hidden reserve on some players where is the amount isn't beaten then the player goes public?

Maybe the player stats should be released on the day, or 1 stat or something? To give some form of is it isn't it?

[Ed@PSG]

Another idea I've seen is if you blind bid say 400mil, that's not what you pay.

That's your maximum and JB would keep bidding for you until you win the player or someone bids more than the 400 mil

This is the way that i thought it would work, and if there were 2 BBs then the starting price was 5m above the losing BB. In hindsight glad i attended the live auction and didnt BB

But it was certainly an entertaining evening

[Ian]

Just to say that with my idea everyone would be blind bidding, the advantage of attending the live is that you see the players actual stats.

[Ryan]

I'd say blind bids should be kept blind and let the live bid from the off without knowing the blind bid price and once they've finished bidding then they find out weather they've lost or won bid against the blind bid otherwise live will always beat the blind bid

[JasonH@Wolfsburg]

I say scrap the whole thing and go back to the old auction style.

Unfortunately I feel this benefits those who are available for it. If it was a choice between no auction or this style auction then I go for this style.

As suggested the blind bids can go up in increments, or if we go to the old style auction then a 24 hour release? Would that help?

[Sanchez@Cardiff]

I got to take my hat off to JB as I thought that the auction was a fantastic event. I was extremely lucky to get a player if I'm honest only because who I bid against had more cash than me but decided not to go as high (for whatever reason).

If everyone blind bid then I still think for the most part the same players would go to the same people (just for potentially higher values).

The quality of the players available meant that each of them were easily £100+ plus in value.

That's not always going to be the case in future auctions for sure.

Cash is king, it always has been always will be. Until the balance of who has what equals out then the auction will always be 'unfair' to most no matter what format it's in.

I'm happy with the the current way with some tweaks for sure.